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Beneteau 393 - Comparison

“The Hydrovane is not only easier to mount, I did it single handed with two vice grips in two days, it looks good which was critical to my wife.”

“Finally when comparing apples to apples, access to the swim ladder, emergency rudder, ease of installation and the Hydrovane was over a thousand dollars less.”

From: Larry Read
Sent: August-07-10 7:10 AM
To: Will Curry
Subject: True Story

Hello Will

We looked at a second autopilot as our first back-up alternative but most people just carry the chart plotter/auto helm unit which doesn’t help if it is the drive unit that or other black boxes that fail. A complete electronic backup system would have cost twice the cost of the Hydrovane and taken up lots of space to store the extra parts.

Next we looked at the servo units, xxxxxx in particular. The need to be mounted on the center line killed our ladder and swim step. Lots of light weight tubing requiring 16 mounting holes instead of the hydrovane 6.

The Hydrovane is not only easier to mount, I did it single handed with two vice grips in two days, it looks good which was critical to my wife.

Finally when comparing apples to apples, access to the swim ladder, emergency rudder, ease of installation and the Hydrovane was over a thousand dollars less.

Not to mention no lines in the cockpit or no extra wear and tear on the boat steering day after day.

Thanks for a great product!

Best wishes
Larry

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Hanse 342 - German Dealer

Editor’s note: Tom ordered a Hydrovane then enquired about becoming our German dealer.

“Sometimes its a little bit boring on board, there is nothing to do – hydrovane is steering…”

From: Tom Logisch
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010
To: John Curry
Subject: First Experiences

Hi John,

Here some words about my hydrovane:

– we used the system after our start in kroeslin (germany, our home marina) to bornholm for 60 nautical miles from 2 to 5 bft wind from 120 to 180 degrees without any trouble or so – the system just works!!!
– now we are in sverige/sweden, karlskrona, and many sailors look interested to our big red flag
– it was one of the best investments into our ship
sometimes its a little bit boring on board, there is nothing to do – hydrovane is steering…

Best regards – we start to stockholms islands tomorrow

Tom

And later…

I’m back from stockholm – during our 420 miles nonstop-trip with sometimes more than 35 knots wind and 4 to 6 m sea, the hydrovane steered in all conditions and courses. My crew members were glad and surprised!!

Orders in Germany: LOGISCH YACHTS

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Elizabethan 31

“The result was astonishing. You could have knocked me down with a feather. It just worked!!! We were immediately steering a better course than either of us had managed all afternoon”

“…I don’t believe in fairies. However I do believe in good technology and fine engineering.”

From: Dee & Pippa
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 9:53 AM
To: Hydrovane
Subject: Sula’s Hydrovane

Hello John, Will & Valerie,

Greetings from Porto Santo.

We left Teriffa in the straits of Gibraltar after lunch last Saturday, in order to catch the tide. It was blowing force 6 from the East. I would have settled for less but it was in the right direction so it was time to go. Pippa and I hand steered out into the channel and by early evening we were clear of the shipping lanes and on course for Porto Santo. I had delayed setting the Hydrovane because I was too busy with navigation, watching out for shipping etc. More fool me.

The wind moderated to force 3 and was on our starboard quarter. It was time to set the Hydrovane. I adjusted the course setting line and pulled the two pins. The result was astonishing. You could have knocked me down with a feather. It just worked!!! We were immediately steering a better course than either of us had managed all afternoon. The Hydrovane continued to maintain it’s early promise for the next 600 miles.

During the passage we experienced everything from force six winds with a following Atlantic swell, to force two with an uncomfortable lop. The most we ever did to help was to occasionally tweak the course setting line when there was a wind shift.

I have experience of old servo pendulum steering systems, but could never get them to work properly. A good friend advised that it was because I didn’t have enough faith. He said it was necessary to really believe in them before they would work. Well I’m sorry, I don’t believe in fairies. However I do believe in good technology and fine engineering.

Thank you for a wonderful product.

Best Regards

Dee

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Ericson 35

“It is finally installed and functioning better than advertised.”

From: M & M
Sent: July-09-10 12:01 PM
To: Will Curry
Subject: Watermaker package

Will,

First of all, Thanks for the Hydrovane! It is finally installed and functioning better than advertised.

Thanks,
Mike Knapp & Marie-France Cantin
SV Dejala

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Moody 419

“Most of the 3712nm we travelled was beating and some in very heavy weather.”

From: William
To: Will Curry
Subject: Order for parts
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010

Dear Will

Could you please advise me of how to order a new rudder locking pin for my Hydrovane.

I recently bought a Moody 419 from Antigua to Portugal via the Azores and was astonished at how reliable and versitile the Hydrovane proved to be. Most of the 3712nm we travelled was beating and some in very heavy weather.

The Hydrovane handled the lot, well done.

I look forward to your reply

Regards
Warren Falconer

Garcia 46

Jean-Claude is a respected offshore sailing instructor – with tens of thousands of miles using many different self steering systems.

“Your regulator (self steering system) is very fantastic ….. alone crossing the Atlantic, always hydrovane, only hydrovane ….. no defaults”

From: jean claude fleuret
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 12:42 PM
To: John Curry
Subject: news about Drisar

Hello John,

Your regulator is very fantastic; just at term the round up of South America -Panama to Puerto Williams to Azores-, alone crossing the Atlantic, always hydrovane, only hydrovane. Fantastic! Back wind, nose winds, always fidelity, efficacy! Speaking to other skippers, we agree that the hydrovane construction has a lot of quality, no defaults.
Very happy, thanks for such machine!

Bests regards.
Your faithfully,
Jean-Claude

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Vancouver 32

“I sail single-handed & after 20,000 nm have absolute faith in the wee beastie.”

From: William Marshall
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 1:21 PM
To: Valerie
Subject: Windvane replacement

Hello Valerie

I have had a VXA2 unit on my UK built Vancouver 32 for the last 20 years & it’s a wonderful friend.

I sail single-handed & after 20,000 nm have absolute faith in the wee beastie.

Last summer I was safely anchored for the night in Inishboffin Island (W. Ireland) and in the morning, after a gale, the Windvane Frame was gone!! Are you able to give me a price for a replacement Windvane Frame and Cover. (I live in the UK near Falmouth.)

I enclose a pic of the Hydrovane doing its duty off the west of Ireland.

Many thanks for your help.

Best wishes

Bill

Van de Stadt 50 - 25 Tons, Steel

“If you could have seen how it kept us going to windward at 7.5 knots in mountainous seas with 40 knots of wind off of the Cape of Good Hope with an extremely difficult landfall, you would have been impressed. We were!”

“This view was not only expressed by me but the rest of my family on board.”

From: YACHT AMOK – JONES
Sent: May-14-10 4:57 PM
To: John Curry
Subject: AMOK – My New Best Friend

Hi John and Team
Congratulations – your piece of kit got AMOK at 25 Tons and 50 ft of steel safely from Falmouth, UK to Simon’s Town in South Africa without incident.

We took the windward route via Canaries, Cape Verde Is, Ascension Is, St Helena, and Simon’s Town via Cape of Good Hope: about 95% going to windward.

The weather was extreme 38 gusting 42 knts off of Spain for 5 continuous days and a steady 40 knts plus coming around the bottom part of Africa for 4 days. Needless to say we got the waves to match particularly off of the Cape of Good Hope (serious sailors only down there).

After quite a few days of getting to know one another, the hyrovane and I are now friends. We have worked out our differences and now both understand what needs to be done to control 25 tons of steel, 50 ft long. Once that initial period was over we kept challenging it with harder tasks.

If you could have seen how it kept us going to windward at 7.5 knots in mountainous seas with 40 knots of wind off of the Cape of Good Hope with an extremely difficult landfall, you would have been impressed. We were!

So well done for a fantastic product.

Our only problem we had, which was finger trouble is that we lost two retaining pins when taking the rudder off in port, yes we had them tied off?? Allegedly.

Thanks again

kind regards

Mike Jones, AMOK

From: YACHT AMOK – JONES
Sent: May-18-10 7:30 AM
To: John Curry
Subject: RE: AMOK – My New Best Friend

Hi John
No problem at all, you are welcome to post.

Our comments regarding the Hydrovane are honest and as a result of the intense focus that comes from being in an extremely exposed position with your family and realising that the item of equipment performs beyond what could be reasonably expected. There are not too many items of equipment that fall into that category.

This view was not only expressed by me but the rest of my family on board.

For your records we tended to operate the system with minimum vane sensitivity and maximum gearbox power. AMOK is a very powerful Van der Stadt design, getting the balance right was paramount to the success of the system. We were interested to note that with changing environmental conditions both up and down were able to change the boat balance without any alteration to the vane set up. I think the new enlarged rudder was also an important factor in the success particularly with our boat.

We are now residing in Perth, Western Australia

We will be returning to the boat in Simon’s Town, S.A in November and bringing it across to Fremantle over Xmas. A chance to try the system in the Roaring Forties?

Kind regards

Mike, Laura, Pandora (16) and Toby (15)
AMOK crew

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Koopmans Victoire 1044

Link and a description of Hydrovane installation – in dutch!

From: Erik Staal
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 1:34 PM
To: Valerie Williams
Subject: Re: Extra covers for stubby Hydrovane

Hi Valerie,

I did place a link and a description of the installation of the Hydrovane on my weblog. We are preparing an Atlantic Circle sailing trip. It is in Dutch, but if you’re interested the link is:

http://liberty.solutionbox.nl

Regards,
Erik

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Cascade 36 - Transpac prep

“The boat is good, the Hydrovane is perfect!”

From: AJ Goldman
Sent: May-12-10 11:00 AM
To: will@hydrovane.com
Subject: From AJ!

Hi Will,

Thanks again for all your help, you are the man! I am always impressed on how quickly you can identify a problem and come up with a solution.

Here is my notes from the last trip:

All is well. COG 228 true, speed 6.5 knots, winds 18-22

I got the shit kicked out of me leaving the gate. Sustained 28 knots, gusting to 35. I had to head down more a bit more than I wanted, but the boat was happiest there. In fact, I’m on the way to Kuai! Well, I better turn around soon. Will head home, be back Monday.

Near the last marker, one big swell/wave hit me broad side and went entirely over the boat! It felt liked I was under a waterfall!

The dolphins love me! They have found me three times during the trip. No whales, fine by me!

The boat is good, the Hydrovane is perfect! I set the course, balance the rig, and just move the lever over to position 1, far left. It then takes over, quietly, with very little effort. I use the stubby vane and it steers my 40 foot boat along perfectly! The system never seems to be out of control and it does not seem to mind the big swells and wind. I plan to use the Hydrovane about 98% of the time between San Francisco and Hawaii!

Last story, a tanker changed course to get closer to me, I swear! It really pissed me off! I had him tracked for over twenty minutes on AIS before I saw him, I was well clear, and he turned. I hate those big things!

It is really cold at night! Tell the other guys to bring warm clothing.

Second Verse, signing off.

AJ

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Amazon 37

“We have sailed 1 1/2 times around the world with our hydrovane as our only autopilot.”

From: Bud Carney
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 3:41 AM
To: Valerie
Subject: Rudder for Invictus IV

Dear Valerie:
We have sailed 1 1/2 times around the world with our hydrovane as our only autopilot. It has been near perfect and we can’t get along without it.

Now we’re in Turkey and the company we had paint our boat appears to have lost our rudder. If we have to order a replacement can you let us know the cost, shipment time, etc. thank you.

Thanks again,
Leo (Bud) and Kathy Carney

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Marcon 34

“Hydrovane performed impeccably throughout, especially on the 1500 mile trip back from Horta to Falmouth where, 500 miles north of the Azores, the wind came round from a gentle southerly to hard on the nose and we spent the next week beating into a NNE F7 gusting F8 towards home.”

From: Michael Lynch
Sent: May-06-10 3:01 AM
To: Will Curry
Subject: Thanks for your support

Hi Will,

Thanks for the very helpful and efficient service in replacing my wind vane cover. The old one has lasted more than 10 years now and apart from a small repair to an accidental tear, it is still in one piece but beginning to look a bit thin after years of good use.

My wife and I always sail short-handed, and reckon that Hydrovane is the best piece of kit on our 5 ton 1982 Marcon 34ft Bermudan Sloop, ‘IANTHINA of Plymouth’. We use it constantly, even for short trips. Last weekend [30/4 to 3/5/10] our shakedown cruise for the new season took us from Falmouth to Fowey and back. Although only a short round trip of about 50 miles, we still preferred to use Hydrovane over our wheel mounted mechanical auto-helm. The trip back had us on a dead run for the first part from Fowey to Dodman Point with winds from F3 increasing F5. Hydrovane held a beautiful course allowing us to goose-wing all the way. From Dodman Point to St Anthony’s Head the wind moved from the starboard quarter to abeam and increased to F7, again Hydrovane performed excellently as we flew along touching 8 knots at times. Rounding St Anthony’s Head to enter Falmouth we were faced with a beat into 30+ knot winds – no problem for Hydrovane!

A couple of years ago we sailed the circuit Falmouth – La Coruna – Lisbon – Algarve – Bay of Cadiz – Azores – Falmouth and only ever touched the wheel on entering and leaving harbour. Hydrovane performed impeccably throughout, especially on the 1500 mile trip back from Horta to Falmouth where, 500 miles north of the Azores, the wind came round from a gentle southerly to hard on the nose and we spent the next week beating into a NNE F7 gusting F8 towards home. Hydrovane kept a good course, was simplicity itself to operate, and gave us not a moments concern.

We also like the confidence of knowing that in Hydrovane we also have a most capable auxiliary rudder should our main steering ever fail.

Thanks for a brilliant product.

Mike & Jackie Lynch
‘IANTHINA of Plymouth’
Falmouth, Cornwall, UK

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Whitby 42

“I left NC for the Virgin Islands on Nov 29, 2009. The offshore leg to Culebra was 1250 miles. Weather varied from 35 knots on stern quarter in 10-12 ft seas in Gulfstream to becalmed.”

“I steered a total of 4 1/2 hours during the entire trip. The Hydrovane was wonderful. With a heavy full keel boat like the Whitby it does a remarkable job.”

From: Jerald Waldorf
Date: Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:34 PM
Subject: Great Product
To: John Curry

Hi John,

I purchased a Hydrovane last year for my Whitby 42. I left NC for the Virgin Islands on Nov 29, 2009. The offshore leg to Culebra was 1250 miles. Weather varied from 35 knots on stern quarter in 10-12 ft seas in Gulfstream to becalmed. I steered a total of 4 1/2 hours during the entire trip. The Hydrovane was wonderful. With a heavy full keel boat like the Whitby it does a remarkable job. It has exceeded my expectations.

I purchased a Autohelm tiller pilot so i could steer under power or if need drive the pilot in downwind conditions. I have not actually used this arrangement except to verify it works to my expectations. I recently fouled the mizzen sheet on the protruding arm for the tiller. It broke off midway the black plastic transition piece and promptly fell overboard. I had $150 in machine work to adapt the tiller to the pilot while missing the stern rail. Such is life.

Thanks

Jerry Waldorf

Ohlson 38 Yawl

“The Hydrovane worked well during our Atlantic crossing running downwind in F5-F8 with, at times, a large following sea. Very pleased with its performance.”

From: Andy Warman
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 4:36 PM
To: Valerie Williams
Subject: Request for quotation

Hi Valerie,

We need a new Tiller (Part 23 – I think?) for our Hydrovane, we managed to snap the original one, and would like to check the price.

Look forward to hearing from you.

Regards
Andy Warman
s/y Spruce Prince Rupert Bay – Dominica

PS The Hydrovane worked well during our Atlantic crossing running downwind in F5-F8 with, at times, a large following sea. Very pleased with its performance. Also the watermaker has been working well, the last time we took water from shore side was 1st December 2009 in the Cape Verde Islands.

T40 - www.oceangybe.com

“By the end of March 2007, the three of us were feeling very very broke. Not only had we recently purchased our 40 ft sloop, Khulula, but we had just spent the past two months outfitting her with everything required to take her around the world. The additional cash to purchase a windvane was almost too much. Just how good is this ‘Hydrovane’ anyway?”

From: Ryan Robertson
Sent: March-22-10 3:01 PM
To: Will Curry
Subject: Hydrovane Product Review

By the end of March 2007, the three of us were feeling very very broke. Not only had we recently purchased our 40 ft sloop, Khulula, but we had just spent the past two months outfitting her with everything required to take her around the world. The additional cash to purchase a windvane was almost too much. Just how good is this ‘Hydrovane’ anyway? Ultra low friction, with variable torque settings and the claim that this device would steer you true even when dead down wind and apparent winds of less than 10 knots? Sounds almost too good to be true…

It is now march of 2010 and our friendly hydrovane ‘Casper’ (the invisible but super friendly ghost pilot) has steered us 99% of the 29,000+ nautical miles that has passed beneath Khulula’s hull since the summer or 2007. Mexico, Marqeuesas, Tuamotu’s, Society Islands, Cook Islands, Tonga, Minerva Reef, New Zealand, Vanuatu, Papa new guinea, Australia, Indonesia, Cocos Keeling, Rodruigez, Mauritius, Reunion, South Africa, Saint Helena, Fernando de Noronha, Brazil, Venezuela, Caribbean, Columbia, Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, the adventure continues…

We have circumnavigated the globe, only ever using our puny undersized electric wheel mounted autopilot when the wind completely disappeared and we needed to hold a course while motoring. If the wind was blowing, the hydrovane steered us. I cannot give this device a high enough acclaim: Cunningly engineered, robustly built and very dependable the only parts we have had to replace is a fabric vane cover (eaten away by the sun and the salt) and a nylon bushing, all provided free of charge by the good folks at Hydrovane.

Hugh, Bryson and I have said to each many times that without doubt the most valuable piece of equipment on board was Casper – best purchase EVER. I will never own an offshore boat again that does not have this device. All about us autopilots were failing and wind vanes were jamming, crews were hand steering and were exhausted, and boats stuck in ports waiting for parts. Day in and day out we would sail, no need for the engine, no need to charge the batteries, no fear of steering failure. The stronger the wind got, the straighter the course, to the point that we could not do better if we hand steered!

Save yourself the time, don’t bother with the research, trust me: Just buy a hydrovane. You will not regret it.

One thing to note though – you MUST know how to balance your boat correctly for this vane to work at its best. An unbalanced boat will make any self steering fail.

Thanks very much to Will and Hydrovane. Your product has lived up to its claims and has exceeded our wildest expectations. In addition, the post purchase product support has been absolutely excellent. To date all “spare parts” (one hydrovane cover and one nylon sleeve) have been shipped immediately after our request. Hydrovane has been an absolute pleasure to deal with.

Fair winds and following seas,

Ryan Robertson
www.oceangybe.com

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